CSP V3i

Qualify 1 result



Game RaceRoom Racing Experience
Date 2016-09-22 17:31:02 (UTC)
Track Hockenheimring
Pole Evgeniy I (01:39.6750)
Lasted laps 1
Host TRT-WORLD.RU #5
Other settings Experience = RaceRoom Experience, Difficulty = GetReal, FuelUsage = Normal, MechanicalDamage = On, FlagRules = All, CutRules = SlowDown, RaceSeriesFormat = CustomRRE, WreckerPrevention = Off, MandatoryPitstop = Off
Pos Driver Vehicle Laps Best lap Gap Aids
1 Evgeniy I Bentley Continental GT3 1 01:39.6750 - -
2 Roman R McLaren MP4-12C GT3 1 01:39.6750 00:00.0000 -
3 Jeka P RUF RT12R GTR3 1 01:40.3070 00:00.6320 -
4 Alexey K Audi R8 LMS Ultra 1 01:40.7410 00:01.0660 -
5 Ildar U RUF RT12R GTR3 1 01:41.1630 00:01.4880 -
6 Alexey K BMW Z4 GT3 1 01:41.6420 00:01.9670 -

Qualify 1 laps

Bad lap, 107% rule compared to the overall best lap of the session. Excludes first lap for race sessions
Personal best lap/sector
Overall best lap/sector for a lap
Overall best lap/sector for a lap and personal best lap/sector
Overall best lap/sector
(P) Pit lap
Lap Vehicle Time Sector 1 Sector 2 Sector 3 Aids
Evgeniy I
1 Bentley Continental GT3 01:39.6750 - - -
Roman R
1 McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:39.6750 - - -
Jeka P
1 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:40.3070 - - -
Alexey K
1 Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:40.7410 - - -
Ildar U
1 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:41.1630 - - -
Alexey K
1 BMW Z4 GT3 01:41.6420 - - -

Qualify 1 best laps

Overall top (20)
Driver Vehicle Time Gap
Evgeniy I Bentley Continental GT3 01:39.6750
Roman R McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:39.6750 -
Jeka P RUF RT12R GTR3 01:40.3070 0.632
Alexey K Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:40.7410 1.066
Ildar U RUF RT12R GTR3 01:41.1630 1.488
Alexey K BMW Z4 GT3 01:41.6420 1.967
Per driver
Driver Vehicle Time Gap
Evgeniy I Bentley Continental GT3 01:39.6750
Roman R McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:39.6750 -
Jeka P RUF RT12R GTR3 01:40.3070 0.632
Alexey K Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:40.7410 1.066
Ildar U RUF RT12R GTR3 01:41.1630 1.488
Alexey K BMW Z4 GT3 01:41.6420 1.967

Qualify 1 consistency

Driver Vehicle Consistency
Evgeniy I Bentley Continental GT3 -
Roman R McLaren MP4-12C GT3 -
Jeka P RUF RT12R GTR3 -
Alexey K Audi R8 LMS Ultra -
Ildar U RUF RT12R GTR3 -
Alexey K BMW Z4 GT3 -

Race 1 result



Game RaceRoom Racing Experience
Date 2016-09-22 17:31:02 (UTC)
Track Hockenheimring
Winner Alexey K
Led most laps Alexey K
Best lap Evgeniy I (01:40.4810)
Lasted laps 15
Host TRT-WORLD.RU #5
Other settings Experience = RaceRoom Experience, Difficulty = GetReal, FuelUsage = Normal, MechanicalDamage = On, FlagRules = All, CutRules = SlowDown, RaceSeriesFormat = CustomRRE, WreckerPrevention = Off, MandatoryPitstop = Off
Pos Up Driver Vehicle Laps Time/Retired Best lap Consistency Led Aids
1 3 Alexey K Audi R8 LMS Ultra 15   25:39.3760 01:40.9630 98.80% 13 -
2 0 Roman R McLaren MP4-12C GT3 15 +00:00.3770 01:40.8310 98.66% 0 -
3 2 Evgeniy I Bentley Continental GT3 15 +00:13.1470 01:40.4810 96.97% 2 -
4 1 Ildar U RUF RT12R GTR3 15 +00:23.2910 01:41.1010 97.33% 0 -
5 2 Jeka P RUF RT12R GTR3 15 +00:32.4190 01:41.4720 97.56% 0 -
6 0 Alexey K BMW Z4 GT3 15 +01:11.7320 01:42.5600 96.89% 0 -

Race 1 laps

Bad lap, 107% rule compared to the overall best lap of the session. Excludes first lap for race sessions
Personal best lap/sector
Overall best lap/sector for a lap
Overall best lap/sector for a lap and personal best lap/sector
Overall best lap/sector
(P) Pit lap
Lap Vehicle Time Sector 1 Sector 2 Sector 3 Aids
Alexey K
1 Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:50.1920 - - -
2 Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:41.7120 - - -
3 Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:42.0910 - - -
4 Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:42.2030 - - -
5 Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:40.9630 - - -
6 Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:41.5500 - - -
7 Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:41.3190 - - -
8 Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:41.8970 - - -
9 Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:41.7820 - - -
10 Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:41.7780 - - -
11 Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:41.4030 - - -
12 Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:45.8200 - - -
13 Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:42.4140 - - -
14 Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:42.0330 - - -
15 Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:42.2110 - - -
Roman R
1 McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:50.5690 - - -
2 McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:41.7020 - - -
3 McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:42.0110 - - -
4 McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:42.1330 - - -
5 McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:41.7320 - - -
6 McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:41.6190 - - -
7 McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:40.8310 - - -
8 McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:42.1870 - - -
9 McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:41.6290 - - -
10 McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:41.4880 - - -
11 McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:41.5020 - - -
12 McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:46.5270 - - -
13 McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:42.6950 - - -
14 McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:41.4390 - - -
15 McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:41.6830 - - -
Evgeniy I
1 Bentley Continental GT3 01:46.2470 - - -
2 Bentley Continental GT3 01:41.2480 - - -
3 Bentley Continental GT3 01:52.1230 - - -
4 Bentley Continental GT3 01:41.5080 - - -
5 Bentley Continental GT3 01:40.4810 - - -
6 Bentley Continental GT3 01:44.8390 - - -
7 Bentley Continental GT3 01:42.1300 - - -
8 Bentley Continental GT3 01:51.1980 - - -
9 Bentley Continental GT3 01:40.7840 - - -
10 Bentley Continental GT3 01:45.2860 - - -
11 Bentley Continental GT3 01:40.7450 - - -
12 Bentley Continental GT3 01:41.1840 - - -
13 Bentley Continental GT3 01:40.9090 - - -
14 Bentley Continental GT3 01:42.3300 - - -
15 Bentley Continental GT3 01:41.5040 - - -
Ildar U
1 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:52.0900 - - -
2 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:42.8950 - - -
3 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:41.5030 - - -
4 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:41.1010 - - -
5 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:52.0180 - - -
6 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:42.7900 - - -
7 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:44.1790 - - -
8 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:42.4160 - - -
9 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:43.0850 - - -
10 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:44.3250 - - -
11 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:43.1390 - - -
12 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:43.2490 - - -
13 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:43.4390 - - -
14 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:42.9940 - - -
15 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:43.4360 - - -
Jeka P
1 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:58.9970 - - -
2 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:51.4780 - - -
3 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:42.1090 - - -
4 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:42.6310 - - -
5 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:42.8670 - - -
6 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:42.2550 - - -
7 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:42.4140 - - -
8 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:41.4720 - - -
9 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:47.9260 - - -
10 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:42.0190 - - -
11 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:43.0440 - - -
12 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:42.9560 - - -
13 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:43.8990 - - -
14 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:43.5670 - - -
15 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:44.1540 - - -
Alexey K
1 BMW Z4 GT3 01:51.2340 - - -
2 BMW Z4 GT3 01:50.4750 - - -
3 BMW Z4 GT3 01:46.6390 - - -
4 BMW Z4 GT3 01:48.0700 - - -
5 BMW Z4 GT3 01:44.7010 - - -
6 BMW Z4 GT3 01:48.0540 - - -
7 BMW Z4 GT3 01:44.2980 - - -
8 BMW Z4 GT3 01:44.8360 - - -
9 BMW Z4 GT3 01:43.3120 - - -
10 BMW Z4 GT3 01:42.8870 - - -
11 BMW Z4 GT3 01:42.5600 - - -
12 BMW Z4 GT3 01:43.5960 - - -
13 BMW Z4 GT3 01:44.3040 - - -
14 BMW Z4 GT3 02:08.3740 - - -
15 BMW Z4 GT3 01:47.7620 - - -

Race 1 best laps

Overall top (20)
Driver Vehicle Time Gap
Evgeniy I Bentley Continental GT3 01:40.4810
Evgeniy I Bentley Continental GT3 01:40.7450 0.264
Evgeniy I Bentley Continental GT3 01:40.7840 0.303
Roman R McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:40.8310 0.35
Evgeniy I Bentley Continental GT3 01:40.9090 0.428
Alexey K Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:40.9630 0.482
Ildar U RUF RT12R GTR3 01:41.1010 0.62
Evgeniy I Bentley Continental GT3 01:41.1840 0.703
Evgeniy I Bentley Continental GT3 01:41.2480 0.767
Alexey K Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:41.3190 0.838
Alexey K Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:41.4030 0.922
Roman R McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:41.4390 0.958
Jeka P RUF RT12R GTR3 01:41.4720 0.991
Roman R McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:41.4880 1.007
Roman R McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:41.5020 1.021
Ildar U RUF RT12R GTR3 01:41.5030 1.022
Evgeniy I Bentley Continental GT3 01:41.5040 1.023
Evgeniy I Bentley Continental GT3 01:41.5080 1.027
Alexey K Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:41.5500 1.069
Roman R McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:41.6190 1.138
Per driver
Driver Vehicle Time Gap
Evgeniy I Bentley Continental GT3 01:40.4810
Roman R McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:40.8310 0.35
Alexey K Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:40.9630 0.482
Ildar U RUF RT12R GTR3 01:41.1010 0.62
Jeka P RUF RT12R GTR3 01:41.4720 0.991
Alexey K BMW Z4 GT3 01:42.5600 2.079

Race 1 consistency

Driver Vehicle Consistency
Alexey K Audi R8 LMS Ultra 98.80% <> 1.2072
Roman R McLaren MP4-12C GT3 98.66% <> 1.3495
Jeka P RUF RT12R GTR3 97.56% <> 2.4756
Ildar U RUF RT12R GTR3 97.33% <> 2.7042
Evgeniy I Bentley Continental GT3 96.97% <> 3.0412
Alexey K BMW Z4 GT3 96.89% <> 3.1845

Race 1 positions

Race 1 gaps

Qualify 2 result



Game RaceRoom Racing Experience
Date 2016-09-22 18:09:47 (UTC)
Track Hockenheimring
Pole Evgeniy I (01:40.0790)
Lasted laps 1
Host TRT-WORLD.RU #5
Other settings Experience = RaceRoom Experience, Difficulty = GetReal, FuelUsage = Normal, MechanicalDamage = On, FlagRules = All, CutRules = SlowDown, RaceSeriesFormat = CustomRRE, WreckerPrevention = Off, MandatoryPitstop = Off
Pos Driver Vehicle Laps Best lap Gap Aids
1 Evgeniy I Bentley Continental GT3 1 01:40.0790 - -
2 Alexey K Audi R8 LMS Ultra 1 01:40.6020 00:00.5230 -
3 Roman R McLaren MP4-12C GT3 1 01:40.7120 00:00.6330 -
4 Jeka P RUF RT12R GTR3 1 01:40.9140 00:00.8350 -
5 Ildar U RUF RT12R GTR3 1 01:41.6950 00:01.6160 -
6 Alexey K BMW Z4 GT3 0 - - -

Qualify 2 laps

Bad lap, 107% rule compared to the overall best lap of the session. Excludes first lap for race sessions
Personal best lap/sector
Overall best lap/sector for a lap
Overall best lap/sector for a lap and personal best lap/sector
Overall best lap/sector
(P) Pit lap
Lap Vehicle Time Sector 1 Sector 2 Sector 3 Aids
Evgeniy I
1 Bentley Continental GT3 01:40.0790 - - -
Alexey K
1 Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:40.6020 - - -
Roman R
1 McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:40.7120 - - -
Jeka P
1 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:40.9140 - - -
Ildar U
1 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:41.6950 - - -
Alexey K
No laps for this driver

Qualify 2 best laps

Overall top (20)
Driver Vehicle Time Gap
Evgeniy I Bentley Continental GT3 01:40.0790
Alexey K Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:40.6020 0.523
Roman R McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:40.7120 0.633
Jeka P RUF RT12R GTR3 01:40.9140 0.835
Ildar U RUF RT12R GTR3 01:41.6950 1.616
Per driver
Driver Vehicle Time Gap
Evgeniy I Bentley Continental GT3 01:40.0790
Alexey K Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:40.6020 0.523
Roman R McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:40.7120 0.633
Jeka P RUF RT12R GTR3 01:40.9140 0.835
Ildar U RUF RT12R GTR3 01:41.6950 1.616

Qualify 2 consistency

Driver Vehicle Consistency
Evgeniy I Bentley Continental GT3 -
Alexey K Audi R8 LMS Ultra -
Roman R McLaren MP4-12C GT3 -
Jeka P RUF RT12R GTR3 -
Ildar U RUF RT12R GTR3 -
Alexey K BMW Z4 GT3 -

Race 2 result



Game RaceRoom Racing Experience
Date 2016-09-22 18:09:47 (UTC)
Track Hockenheimring
Winner Alexey K
Led most laps Roman R
Best lap Jeka P (01:41.0680)
Lasted laps 15
Host TRT-WORLD.RU #5
Other settings Experience = RaceRoom Experience, Difficulty = GetReal, FuelUsage = Normal, MechanicalDamage = On, FlagRules = All, CutRules = SlowDown, RaceSeriesFormat = CustomRRE, WreckerPrevention = Off, MandatoryPitstop = Off
Pos Up Driver Vehicle Laps Time/Retired Best lap Consistency Led Aids
1 1 Alexey K Audi R8 LMS Ultra 15   25:45.3380 01:41.4760 99.24% 3 -
2 1 Roman R McLaren MP4-12C GT3 15 +00:00.8640 01:41.3360 98.70% 12 -
3 3 Alexey K BMW Z4 GT3 15 +00:09.4470 01:42.1130 98.97% 0 -
4 0 Jeka P RUF RT12R GTR3 15 +00:10.4360 01:41.0680 98.89% 0 -
5 0 Ildar U RUF RT12R GTR3 15 +00:25.0380 01:41.1690 97.80% 0 -
6 5 Evgeniy I Bentley Continental GT3 1 DNF 02:00.2210 - 0 -

Race 2 laps

Bad lap, 107% rule compared to the overall best lap of the session. Excludes first lap for race sessions
Personal best lap/sector
Overall best lap/sector for a lap
Overall best lap/sector for a lap and personal best lap/sector
Overall best lap/sector
(P) Pit lap
Lap Vehicle Time Sector 1 Sector 2 Sector 3 Aids
Alexey K
1 Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:54.5820 - - -
2 Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:42.5730 - - -
3 Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:41.6720 - - -
4 Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:41.8220 - - -
5 Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:41.6930 - - -
6 Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:41.7730 - - -
7 Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:42.1850 - - -
8 Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:41.9050 - - -
9 Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:41.4760 - - -
10 Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:42.6760 - - -
11 Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:42.6960 - - -
12 Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:41.5290 - - -
13 Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:41.6210 - - -
14 Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:41.6690 - - -
15 Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:45.4590 - - -
Roman R
1 McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:50.3280 - - -
2 McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:42.2340 - - -
3 McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:42.0380 - - -
4 McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:42.8140 - - -
5 McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:41.4570 - - -
6 McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:42.9420 - - -
7 McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:41.3700 - - -
8 McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:42.2630 - - -
9 McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:41.7260 - - -
10 McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:44.2030 - - -
11 McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:42.6310 - - -
12 McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:41.3360 - - -
13 McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:43.2290 - - -
14 McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:45.1170 - - -
15 McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:42.5100 - - -
Alexey K
1 BMW Z4 GT3 01:51.5460 - - -
2 BMW Z4 GT3 01:42.6240 - - -
3 BMW Z4 GT3 01:42.3810 - - -
4 BMW Z4 GT3 01:42.3010 - - -
5 BMW Z4 GT3 01:42.7340 - - -
6 BMW Z4 GT3 01:43.6160 - - -
7 BMW Z4 GT3 01:42.1130 - - -
8 BMW Z4 GT3 01:43.1190 - - -
9 BMW Z4 GT3 01:42.5400 - - -
10 BMW Z4 GT3 01:43.2180 - - -
11 BMW Z4 GT3 01:44.2480 - - -
12 BMW Z4 GT3 01:42.9010 - - -
13 BMW Z4 GT3 01:43.3230 - - -
14 BMW Z4 GT3 01:44.9240 - - -
15 BMW Z4 GT3 01:43.1900 - - -
Jeka P
1 RUF RT12R GTR3 02:06.2620 - - -
2 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:41.3030 - - -
3 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:41.0680 - - -
4 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:41.5830 - - -
5 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:42.1550 - - -
6 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:42.0700 - - -
7 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:41.7400 - - -
8 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:42.5780 - - -
9 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:42.1320 - - -
10 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:42.9630 - - -
11 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:43.5530 - - -
12 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:42.6970 - - -
13 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:41.6670 - - -
14 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:41.9020 - - -
15 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:42.0940 - - -
Ildar U
1 RUF RT12R GTR3 02:05.0120 - - -
2 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:44.6020 - - -
3 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:41.1690 - - -
4 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:43.3340 - - -
5 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:41.6780 - - -
6 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:43.4250 - - -
7 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:48.9430 - - -
8 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:44.4190 - - -
9 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:42.2080 - - -
10 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:41.2520 - - -
11 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:41.7960 - - -
12 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:42.5580 - - -
13 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:41.8190 - - -
14 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:43.1490 - - -
15 RUF RT12R GTR3 01:45.0050 - - -
Evgeniy I
1 Bentley Continental GT3 02:00.2210 - - -

Race 2 best laps

Overall top (20)
Driver Vehicle Time Gap
Jeka P RUF RT12R GTR3 01:41.0680
Ildar U RUF RT12R GTR3 01:41.1690 0.101
Ildar U RUF RT12R GTR3 01:41.2520 0.184
Jeka P RUF RT12R GTR3 01:41.3030 0.235
Roman R McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:41.3360 0.268
Roman R McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:41.3700 0.302
Roman R McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:41.4570 0.389
Alexey K Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:41.4760 0.408
Alexey K Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:41.5290 0.461
Jeka P RUF RT12R GTR3 01:41.5830 0.515
Alexey K Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:41.6210 0.553
Jeka P RUF RT12R GTR3 01:41.6670 0.599
Alexey K Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:41.6690 0.601
Alexey K Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:41.6720 0.604
Ildar U RUF RT12R GTR3 01:41.6780 0.61
Alexey K Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:41.6930 0.625
Roman R McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:41.7260 0.658
Jeka P RUF RT12R GTR3 01:41.7400 0.672
Alexey K Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:41.7730 0.705
Ildar U RUF RT12R GTR3 01:41.7960 0.728
Per driver
Driver Vehicle Time Gap
Jeka P RUF RT12R GTR3 01:41.0680
Ildar U RUF RT12R GTR3 01:41.1690 0.101
Roman R McLaren MP4-12C GT3 01:41.3360 0.268
Alexey K Audi R8 LMS Ultra 01:41.4760 0.408
Alexey K BMW Z4 GT3 01:42.1130 1.045
Evgeniy I Bentley Continental GT3 02:00.2210 19.153

Race 2 consistency

Driver Vehicle Consistency
Alexey K Audi R8 LMS Ultra 99.24% <> 0.7758
Alexey K BMW Z4 GT3 98.97% <> 1.05
Jeka P RUF RT12R GTR3 98.89% <> 1.1195
Roman R McLaren MP4-12C GT3 98.70% <> 1.3205
Ildar U RUF RT12R GTR3 97.80% <> 2.2301
Evgeniy I Bentley Continental GT3 -

Race 2 positions

Race 2 gaps

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